Nick Rowe’s model seems to be all over the internet once you
start to look for it; there are quite a few people who are curious about it but
not yet embracing it (possibly because it implies something on the “burden of
national debt” question that they find discomfiting), and others who embrace it
with exceptional glee (possibly because it provides them with another reason to
believe what they had already believed before they ever saw it).
Having had a day or two to think about what he was saying in
the comments to my post, I think his model does capture something that matters,
but I also think it may be answering a different question than the standard one
about passing the burden of national debt on to “our grandchildren”, or at
least a different question than the one I have always thought of when I heard
that phrase. I said that in our
conversation in the comments, where I admitted that his original post had
confused me a bit because I was stuck in a comparative-accounting-period frame
of reference while he was looking at a process of linked cohorts. Professor Rowe's linguistic criticism is
right: I was talking about future times,
not future generations. Fortunately, the answer is still
the same: whether we are asking whether current debt can burden future times or
future generations, the answer is “it depends”. But it may depend on different things.
A picture is worth…well, whatever a picture is worth. But the distinction might be easier to
understand in pictures, so I’m going to draw some.
This first picture more or less depicts his example from the
comments, but using my vision of the process, meaning looking at the world as a
sequence of accounting periods (years or decades or something), rather than as
a sequence of overlapping cohorts each of which happens to occupy some subset
of those accounting periods.
In my model, what I would notice about this picture is that
at every time period the economy produces exactly 4 apples (no economic growth,
either positive or negative). I
would also notice that there are two distribution changes over the course of
these 6 time periods: between times 2 and 3 for whatever reason the
distribution became more equal between young and old, and between times 4 and 5
it changed back. You can say that
times 1, 2, 5 and 6 were more “fair” because everyone was receiving exactly
what they earned, no more and no less, or you can say that times 4 and 5 were
more “fair” because the old, whose health no longer allowed them to work, were
not as poor as they had been. In
the chart above, maybe the young in time 3 instituted Social Security to
maintain a reasonable old-age income for those who had created the world in
which they, the young, worked. In
period 5 the young became resentful of the need to reduce their consumption to
subsidize the idle old, and eliminated Social Security.
And now we can see that the changes represented by the blue
lines, while they may provide each time period with a distribution of goods
that seemed fair to them within that time period, are unfair between
cohorts. The second cohort got a
windfall, and received 5 apples over their lifetimes instead of the standard 4,
while the fourth experienced a clear burden, because they received only 3
apples over their lifetimes.
So if I understand Prof. Rowe’s model correctly, I think that at a
simple level the difference in viewpoint between what I was saying in my post
and what Prof. Rowe was saying is that I was looking at vertical (time period) slices
of this picture, while he was looking at diagonal (cohort) slices.
It is possible that the differences between the time periods
are created by debt: in periods 3 and 4, perhaps the young lend an apple to the
old, and expect repayment when they themselves are old. Actually, if the changes were created
by debt, then period 5 above is not quite right: the old in period 5 would have
a bond they could cash, so they would demand an extra apple---which would have
to come from somewhere. Since
we’ve assumed there is no growth, and no stealing apples across time-segments,
then that extra apple has to be extracted from the economy through some kind of
tax, or through inflation, or something.
So it might be more reasonable to say the young and the old would each
pay a ½ apple tax to pay the debt to the old in that case, so the distribution
would really be 2.5 apples for the young, and 1.5 apples for the old. But the result would be similar: one or
more cohorts would get a benefit over their lifetimes from the initial
application of the redistribution policy, and one or more would accept a loss
to pay for that when the policy was reversed.
But notice three things:
First, the cohort that lost apples over their lifetime did not
lose because of the first policy change but because of the second policy
change. There’s nothing strange
about this: it is not creating debt that hurts, it’s paying debt back, and---if
these changes were the result of borrowing and repaying apples---the second
change is paying the debt back.
If we never pay the debt back (ie, if we are able to continually roll
over the debt forever), then there will never be a cohort that loses, in this
model.
Second, the blue lines in this picture represent distributional
change, not specifically debt or
confiscation. Debt is certainly
one way to create an effect similar to this. But this effect doesn’t have to result from an initial
debt, or from paying off a debt at the end. Any policy change that alters the distribution of income (or
apples) between young and old will create a cost or a benefit for some
cohort---if the change redistributes income toward older people, then those who
were young before the change and become old after had the best of both policies:
greater income from the initial policy when they were young, and greater income
from the new policy when they are older.
And it works the other way too, of course: a policy change that
redistributes income from the old to the young is costly for those who were
young before the change, and older after the change. What could cause a change like that? The answer is: any of a billion things
that can occur in history can do it.
Certainly, as Prof. Rowe has pointed out, debt or confiscation for the
sake of redistributing income in a way that seems more “fair” to those who are
around and voting in each time period can do it. Other things that might impact the distribution of
income between young and old---or between any two groups, for that
matter---include changes in regulations, changes in tastes or technology,
changes in education (ie, the young may be more or less educated, depending on
whether we invest in maintaining and improving schools or not). If we’re concerned with perfect
intergenerational equity, history itself is our enemy: there is nothing fair
about being a part of the generation that emerged into the economy just before
the tsunami in Japan or the depression in Spain. Or here, for that matter. So even if we borrow, and if that does somehow create
a kind of intergenerational inequity for some future cohort, that could still
be the fairest thing for us to do if we borrow to reduce the intergenerational
inequity created by a current depression.
Third, things become a lot muddier if we include economic
growth. In the chart below,
I used a 30% real growth over the roughly 30 years between the time a cohort is
young and the time it is old, and for the two time periods between the blue lines
I assumed that some change in conditions, perhaps a change in government policy
that taxed the young and subsidized the old, transferred 20% from the young to
the old.
The end result, along the
top, is that the total lifetime income of the sequence of cohorts shows a
continuous rise. The fourth
cohort would have had more if the policy changes had never taken place, but is
it reasonable to assert that life, or policy, has been unfair to them when they are able to consume more than any generation that preceded them? Why, in general, is the result of generations of
economic growth fair between cohorts?
If no redistribution had ever taken place cohort 2 (who initiated the
change) would have consumed only 5.59
apples instead of 6.6, and cohort 4 would have consumed 9.45 apples over
its lifetime, instead of 8.13. But
is it reasonable to say, in this case, that generation 2, consuming 6.6 apples,
has placed an unfair burden on cohort 4, which consumes much more? Why is that unfair?
It becomes muddier still if young cohort 2 has worked and
borrowed to create the economic growth
that provided an improved life for young cohort 3 and young cohort 4.
So inter-cohort equity is a difficult topic. Intertemporal equity is much easier:
for that, at least as far as current debt might impact it, read my post from
last week. But I think the topic
Prof. Rowe raised, the topic of redistribution not just between young and old
within a time slice, but between cohorts that cross time slices, can help us
make choices. And I think that a
more general version of the simple diagram we’ve been using here will help us
look at it.
But I’ll put off a description of that for my next post,
because this post is long enough.
Stuart: "So if I understand Prof. Rowe’s model correctly..."
ReplyDeleteI think you do.
It's been fun thinking about this for the last few days. Thanks again for your comments on my earlier post...they were a great stimulant.
ReplyDeleteStuart